RedSage-Qwen3 8B: a paper-backed open cyber-assistant, benchmarked only by its authors
D. Rose · 18 August 2026 · 7 min
An imatrix GGUF quant of RISys-Lab's DPO-aligned RedSage-Qwen3-8B — an 8B cybersecurity assistant built on Qwen3-8B-Base, with an ICLR 2026 paper and a documented four-stage pipeline. The provenance is unusually clean for a community GGUF. The catch: every benchmark is author-reported, the flagship one is a benchmark the authors built themselves, no third party has reproduced any of it, and the derivative-weight license is still unresolved.
Most of the security fine-tunes in this catalog arrive as an anonymous GGUF with a marketing README and no paper. RedSage is the other kind: an academic model with named authors, a documented training pipeline, and a paper — arXiv 2601.22159, published at ICLR 2026. That earns it a closer read than a typical community upload. It also raises the bar for honesty, because a paper full of numbers is exactly the kind of thing people quote without checking who produced the numbers. Here, the answer is: the authors did, for every one of them.
The entry in this catalog is one specific build — the "weighted/imatrix" GGUF quants of RISys-Lab/RedSage-Qwen3-8B-DPO, quantized by the prolific community packager mradermacher. That's the version you'd pull to run locally.
What it actually is
The underlying model is an 8-billion-parameter dense, decoder-only LLM. Its foundation is Qwen/Qwen3-8B-Base: 8.2B total parameters (6.95B non-embedding), 36 layers, grouped-query attention with 32 query and 8 key/value heads, a 32,768-token native context, Apache-2.0, pretrained on roughly 36 trillion tokens across 119 languages.
RedSage adapts that base through a stated four-stage pipeline, ending at the DPO checkpoint this catalog entry wraps. Per the DPO model card, the DPO stage is trained from the instruct checkpoint using Direct Preference Optimization on allenai/llama-3.1-tulu-3-8b-preference-mixture. The chain, end to end:
Qwen3-8B-Base → RedSage-CFW (continual pre-training) → RedSage-Base (targeted pre-training) → RedSage-Ins (SFT) → RedSage-DPO (DPO) → i1 GGUF (mradermacher quantization)
The domain adaptation itself is the substance here. Per the paper, the family was built from 11.8B tokens of cybersecurity continual-pretraining data (28.6K documents) plus 266K agentically-generated multi-turn SFT samples. Original weights are BF16; the GGUF you'd download is a lossy conversion of them.
The model comes from RISys-Lab — the "Robust Intelligent Systems Lab." The paper's authors are Naufal Suryanto, Muzammal Naseer, Pengfei Li, Syed Talal Wasim, Jinhui Yi, Juergen Gall, Paolo Ceravolo, and Ernesto Damiani. The lead author's page indicates a Khalifa University affiliation, though that isn't confirmed verbatim from the paper.
Makers' claims vs. what's verified
The authors position RedSage as "an open-source, locally deployable cybersecurity assistant with domain-aware pretraining and post-training" (paper). The DPO card frames intended use as general-purpose cybersecurity assistance, log analysis, threat-intelligence summarization, and educational queries — and, to its credit, warns that the model "may still produce incorrect information" and to "always verify outputs in critical security environments" (model card). The stated motivation is privacy: running security workflows without shipping sensitive data to a proprietary API.
So the provenance is clean and the intent is documented. The honest split is about who measured the results: every RedSage benchmark below is author-reported, and the flagship number comes from a benchmark the authors built themselves. No independent, third-party evaluation of any RedSage variant was found. That doesn't make the numbers wrong — it makes them unreplicated. Read them as "the authors' own measurement of the authors' own model," which is the correct frame for a fresh research release that no one else has re-run yet.
One thing that separates RedSage from the abliterated offensive-security builds elsewhere in this catalog: it is not refusal-stripped. It's DPO-aligned, and the card itself tells you to check its output. That's a defensive-assistant posture, not a jailbroken one.
Benchmarks
Every number here is author-reported, for the full-precision (BF16) RedSage-Qwen3-8B-DPO — not the GGUF quant in this catalog, and not independently reproduced. The "author's baseline" column is the comparator reported alongside each score; the paper's results tables didn't render cleanly enough to confirm which model the baseline is, but it is most likely stock Qwen3-8B (unconfirmed).
| Benchmark | RedSage-DPO | Author's baseline | Which model / caveat |
|---|---|---|---|
| RedSage-Bench (0-shot, macro avg) — the authors' own benchmark | 84.83 | 81.85 | RedSage-DPO, author-reported |
| External cybersecurity mean (CTI-Bench, CyberMetric, MMLU-Security / SECURE) | 81.10 | 75.71 | RedSage-DPO, author-reported |
| Open LLM Leaderboard (mean) | 74.33 | 65.92 | RedSage-DPO, author-reported |
Source: the DPO model card. The paper's abstract states the headline a different way — RedSage 8B "surpasses baselines by up to +5.59 points on cybersecurity benchmarks and +5.05 points on Open LLM Leaderboard tasks" (paper) — a family-level claim, so don't pin it to the DPO stage specifically.
Two caveats on the table itself. First, the flagship row is the authors' own benchmark (RedSage-Bench); a model scoring well on a test its makers designed is the least surprising result in the table, and the more portable signal is the external-benchmark row against public suites like CTI-Bench and CyberMetric. Second, the exact decimals were retrieved via a page-summarizing fetch rather than read cell-by-cell from a rendered table — treat them as high-confidence but verify against the card before you quote them anywhere load-bearing.
There is no clean base-model row to compare against. Qwen3-8B-Base's own published benchmark scores weren't captured for this write-up — the Qwen card defers them to a separate report — so the only base-vs-fine-tune signal available is the authors' internal "baseline" comparator above, not an independent measurement of the foundation model.
For a practitioner
What you'd genuinely use it for. A local cybersecurity assistant for the drudge tasks the authors target: log triage and explanation, threat-intelligence summarization, and educational/explanatory queries — on hardware you control, with nothing leaving the box. Treat that as the documented intent, not a proven capability, and keep the card's own warning in the loop: verify anything that feeds a real decision.
How to run it. These are GGUF weights for llama.cpp, Ollama, and LM Studio. This repo is the imatrix ("i1") line — quants weighted with an importance matrix, generally higher quality than plain static quants at the same bitrate, especially at low bit-widths. The card's practical picks are i1-Q4_K_M (~5.03 GB, flagged "fast, recommended") or i1-Q4_K_S (~4.8 GB, "optimal size/speed/quality"); the range runs from IQ1_S (~2.12 GB, expect real quality loss) up to Q6_K (~6.73 GB) (quant repo). At that footprint it fits comfortably on an 8 GB GPU, or on CPU. If you'd rather have non-imatrix builds, the static-quant sibling repo is mradermacher/RedSage-Qwen3-8B-DPO-GGUF.
Prompt format. The instruct/DPO lineage uses ChatML (<|im_start|> / <|im_end|>), inherited from Qwen3's instruct format and confirmed on the instruct card. Make sure your runtime applies the ChatML template rather than a generic one.
Context length. Neither the DPO card nor the GGUF card restates it. The Qwen3-8B-Base foundation is 32,768 tokens natively (Qwen3-8B-Base), which the quant inherits unless your runtime caps it lower — so confirm the setting rather than assuming the full 32K.
The caveat that will actually bite you: you're benchmarking a model you're not running. Those scores are for the BF16 original. The file you download is a lossy quant, and at the low-bpw end (IQ1_S through the Q4 picks) the degradation is real and unmeasured — no quant-specific numbers are published for any of these builds. If accuracy matters more than footprint, stay at the higher quants.
Licensing — the genuinely unresolved part. The base Qwen3-8B-Base is cleanly Apache-2.0 (Qwen3-8B-Base). The derivative RedSage weights are not licensed on the card at all — the DPO HF page shows no populated license field, and mradermacher's GGUF repo adds no grant of its own. A GitHub issue (#15), opened 2026-07-16, asks RISys-Lab to clarify the weight license; as of writing it's still open with no maintainer response. Until they answer, treat redistribution and commercial terms as unresolved, even though the foundation model is permissive.
Honest limits
- No independent evaluation exists. Every RedSage number is author-reported, and the flagship RedSage-Bench is the authors' own benchmark. Nobody outside the lab has reproduced any of it yet.
- The baseline comparator is unconfirmed. The paper's results tables didn't render through fetch, so which model "baseline" refers to (most likely stock Qwen3-8B) is inferred, not verified.
- No base-model scores here. Qwen3-8B-Base's own benchmarks weren't captured, so there's no clean independent base-vs-fine-tune comparison — only the authors' internal delta.
- Exact decimals are fetch-derived. The card figures came through a page summarizer, not a cell-by-cell read; verify before quoting.
- Context length and author affiliation are inferred. The 32K window is the base model's native context assumed to carry through the quant; the Khalifa University affiliation comes from the lead author's page, not the paper text.
- The derivative-weight license is a real gap, not just a research gap — an open, unanswered licensing question, not a formality.
RedSage is one of the more credible-looking open security models to appear recently: a real paper, a documented four-stage pipeline, named academic authors, and an 8B footprint that runs on a laptop. The discipline it demands is the same as everything else in a measured catalog — keep the labels straight. Author-reported, not independent. Own benchmark, not a public one. BF16 in the paper, 4-bit on your disk. And a license that, for the weights that matter, nobody has actually stated yet.
See the catalog entry: /catalog/redsage-8b. For where it sits among the rest of the field, see the 2026 survey of open security-research LLMs.